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Revelation and Empire: Shane Wood | Faith & Politics #11

October 19, 2026

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About this episode

Shane J. Wood, professor of New Testament and its origins at Ozark Christian College and author of Thinning the Veil, returns for the eighth episode in the faith and politics series — this time on Revelation.

Wood argues that the question the series has been circling is the question Revelation opens with. Christians in Asia Minor were living under an emperor in decline, caught in a conflict they hadn't chosen, and the book was written to tell them how to stand.

Much of the conversation is about definitions. When the crucified king is at the center, what counts as victory changes — which is why Smyrna's reward for faithfulness is that things will get worse. Wood reads Pliny's letter to Trajan as a Roman governor's genuine confusion at a group whose stubbornness took the form of being better citizens than his citizens.

They also discuss why worship was a national security matter in Rome, the iconography of Washington, why obedience and subversion both have textual warrant, and Wood's closing claim: that the early church regarded the emperor as a figure to be pitied rather than feared.

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Chapters:

00:00 Welcome back

02:13 The situation Revelation was written into

04:05 Paul, household codes, and relocating structures

06:09 Obedience and subversion: holding the spectrum

07:08 Rome is too small a target

10:56 Smyrna: victory that looks like more suffering

13:34 Pliny, Trajan, and a governor's confusion

16:40 Sacred order and why Christians couldn't comply

17:58 Worship as national security in Rome

20:22 Civil religion, grammar, and iconography

23:36 A Roman historian walks into the Lincoln Memorial

26:19 The slow descent, not the sudden conversion

29:10 The verses we carve and the ones we don't

31:19 Matthew 28: discipleship as political

34:40 Matthew retelling Israel's story

38:05 When governing authority overreaches

40:52 Nero, Domitian, and emperors in decline

45:23 Pharaoh who knew not Joseph

46:44 The church as guide, not political strategist

48:05 The true enemy behind the empire

50:30 Pity, not fear

 

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